Aug 10, 2009

You UnAmerican Nazi!

Now it is Un-American to disagree with the Government

Wait, just six months ago opposing the President was Patriotic? I'm confused - Oh wait, that's because George Bush was our President.
"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."
— Hillary Clinton
Hillary said ANY Administration, right?

But if you disagree with Nancy Pelosi you are UN-AMERICAN!

Man, the shifting at the hog trough didn't take long, did it?

But wait, there's more! Mrs. Pelosi just couldn't leave it alone. Since her mouth was already open more fell out.
“I think they’re AstroTurf. You be the judge. They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care.”
Who carries swastikas? Nazis do. Pelosi did not complain that the protesters were comparing Obama's Health Care Plan to Nazism; she insinuated that the protesters are the Nazis.

Can we get something straight here, please - all together - for once? Let's all agree that if you use Hitler or Nazi in a sentence in a debate - you're automatically disqualified from all further discussion.

First, for the Speaker of the House of Representatives is comparing the people of her country to Nazis - and not bothering to understand what that implication means - is deplorable.

It is one thing for a citizen to say vile things about an elected official, they're our employees after all. It's something else for an elected official to say vile things about a citizen. It seems like a double standard - but guess what, it isn't.

But there's something else that's troubling me. I wish we could all come to terms with what the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was. It was a combination or consortium of different political views - left and right - and created a form of government that was neither capitalist nor communist. This was the 'Third Way'.

Both fascism and Nazism rejected ideologies like democracy, liberalism and Marxism, but also conservatism and also corporatism when it suited them. But Italian and Spanish fascists were different than the Germans. So it's just easier to say Nationalists. The State was what mattered most.

The Nazi Party was sculpted by Hitler's main views formulated while he was in prison. He wrote these ideas in his book, Mein Kampf. The three main points were the conception of history as a race struggle influenced by Social Darwinism; antisemitism; and the idea that Germany needed to acquire land from Russia. All terrible ideas, but since the original party was all over the place, Hitler was able to mold it to his views- he was an artist after all. Once in power, he purged a whole bunch of folks in his own party who didn't agree with him.

I'm not going to compare the Democrats to the Nazis - but there are a lot more similarities to the current power mad Democrats to the brown shirts right now than those 'fascist Conservatives.'

Look at their record: intolerant of the opposition - not just the other party, but the people who are attempting to exercise their first amendment rights in public town halls. Calls from the White House for citizens to report any decenters. Their rhetoric... Speaker of the House calling citizens Nazis, O Symbols and redesigned government seals, and idol worship... Do you see a pattern emerging? What I'm getting at is that the Democrats better check that casual throwing of the word 'Nazi' around, okay?

I don't know - maybe it's the opposite? Maybe there are real people finally standing up to this Rahming of Change down people's throats? Or maybe the Speaker is right - there are AstroTurfed (manufactured 'grass roots' - get it?) actors being brought in by the insurance companies to make headlines at these 'Town-Halls' for Congressmen back home?

Or, let's go full retard and say that the folks in these meetings are actually all Obama supporters pretending to be against the Healthcare plan - and they're trying to make the people who are against this thing look really, really bad to everyone else... well that's crazy, isn't it? Sounds like something the Nazis would try... (Reichstag fire anyone?) Kind of like how I think the 'birther' movement isn't from the right side fringe at all.... ah, but that's full retard.

All I know is that Mrs. Pelosi should be purged by Obama after she gives a very heartfelt apology to my un-American ass.


Anonymous said...

Excellent blog, thank you for it.

Mike Godwin said...

Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is a humorous observation coined by Mike Godwin in 1990, and which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[2][3]
Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerum form.

The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued,[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

RushSays said...

If the question is, 'Who is more like the Nazis?' and the choices are Obama-Pelosi or people showing up at town hall meetings who want to protect liberty, that's not even a close call.

Cthulhu, bowler among the stars said...

Say what you will Dude. At least it's an ethos.

Cthulhu said...

Forgot to add this:

Do we KNOW that nobody at any of these events had a swastika?

To be a devil's advocate, I can see some goofball protesting with a sign just like the one the Cap'n made.

Technically, we can all say truthfully that the Cap'n has swastikas on his forum. Not untrue, but not the whole story either.

Not defending the woman, but there may be some truth to what she said.